Curse

stratocastx · Jun 27, 2005, 12:08 PM // 12:08

I recently upgraded to the 77.72 forcewares - I'm having two problems.

1. when I exit GW, around half the time my computer will completely restart with no error message at all. seems to occur when I have restored/maximize the screen to show my desktop frequently (I'm running in 1680 x 1050 widescreen, in game and desktop)

2. when I restore the screen to see part of my desktop, the game freezes in the background until I make it the active window. before, action on the screen continued even when I was on the desktop without GW being the active window.

is there anything I can do about this issues (these never happened on my old 66.73 forcewares)? I would definitely like to fix it if possible. thanks for any help

system specs:

Athlon 64 3500 (not oc'ed)
1 gb corsair 3200
200 gb sata hd
6800 GT 256 mb
Asus A8n-SLI deluxe

cannonfodder · Jun 27, 2005, 01:03 PM // 13:03

Hey mate, I also had the same problem with the forceware drivers, and I had to roll back to the 71.89's, and now I have no more problems...

Try the 71.89's it could work

Dirkiess · Jun 27, 2005, 02:34 PM // 14:34

As a rule of thumb.

There is no need to install the latest Video Drivers if there are no overall problems with your current setup.

Most driver updates will give a fix for certain games and possible hardware/software related issues, and also a small overall performance boost.

I would always check the Drivers Updates before going with an install, if you are experiencing any problems, to see if this driver release fixes anything you may be having problems with.

Otherwise, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

cannonfodder · Jun 27, 2005, 02:36 PM // 14:36

Could not of put it better myself Dirkiess, I can never see the point with people who need to update when a new driver version comes out

stratocastx · Jun 27, 2005, 05:54 PM // 17:54

well, I was replacing my ASUS mobo drivers with the nforce4 drivers, so I figured I'd get the new forcewares at the same time

I'll give this a shot and roll back the driver. Previously I was using the 66.73. thanks for the advice

Dirkiess · Jun 27, 2005, 05:58 PM // 17:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by stratocastx

well, I was replacing my ASUS mobo drivers with the nforce4 drivers, so I figured I'd get the new forcewares at the same time

I'll give this a shot and roll back the driver. Previously I was using the 66.73. thanks for the advice

Another Rule of THumb.

Do not replace too many drivers at once. This can cause you many problems too and is always best to only change one set at a time, test out your system for several days to make sure everything appears to be running ok and then do another update with other drivers.

It helps to resolve problems a lot quicker, because if you change just one set, you know it was possibly them that is causing the problem. If you change more than one set of drivers, it is difficult to determine what the problem is and you have to go through uninstalling all the drivers and start again.

stratocastx · Jun 27, 2005, 06:32 PM // 18:32

I rolled back to the 71's and now the game continues even if it is not the active window, so that's fixed. Time will tell if the reboot problem fixes as well. I certainly learned my lesson here

alucard_x · Jun 28, 2005, 06:18 PM // 18:18

i actually had this happen to my yesterday. i window'd and fullscreened many times, and when i was done, i logged out then hit the X and got a bluescreen on nv4_disp.inf or whatever it is. i also just updated to the 'official' 77.72's... i haven't had a blue screen in quite a while so i thought it was either the drivers or my recent overclocking of the video card.

this didn't happen on 77.50

Dirkiess · Jun 28, 2005, 06:28 PM // 18:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by alucard_x

i actually had this happen to my yesterday. i window'd and fullscreened many times, and when i was done, i logged out then hit the X and got a bluescreen on nv4_disp.inf or whatever it is. i also just updated to the 'official' 77.72's... i haven't had a blue screen in quite a while so i thought it was either the drivers or my recent overclocking of the video card.

this didn't happen on 77.50

Re-read my two rules of thumb in this Thread. There is some good advice in both posts.

Liante · Jun 28, 2005, 07:24 PM // 19:24

I'm getting the same problem. I exit and the game would crash (sometimes) and you can see a blue screen for about a split second before it reboots. Is this problem really caused by the updated nvidia drivers? I had the 77.72 drivers installed before I bought Guild Wars.

Dirkiess · Jun 28, 2005, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liante

I'm getting the same problem. I exit and the game would crash (sometimes) and you can see a blue screen for about a split second before it reboots. Is this problem really caused by the updated nvidia drivers? I had the 77.72 drivers installed before I bought Guild Wars.

I would suggest a roll back of drivers. Use the Driver Cleaner program inbetween installs. It can be obtained from www.guru3d.com. It will help to clean out any files that may get left behind.

Try this idea with several drivers until you get a stable system. Updating drivers is not necessary, especially if your system is working fine as it is.

The only time you really need to update drivers is if a fix has been given in the release that improves a game or piece of software that is causing you problems.

As the guy above said, 77.50 was ok for him before he updated. Try these first and see how you get on.

If no joy, trying several other releases and see how it goes.

Most of these should be obtainable from the same website above.

Mariena Feladon · Jun 29, 2005, 12:01 PM // 12:01

Very same problem here. I know it's a drivers issue, because I was using the reliable 71.xx for Guild Wars (I forgot which version it was).

But then.. then came the Battlefield 2 demo. And that demo had shadow issues.

That very same demo included more recent NVidia drivers which fixed BF2's shadow issues and that's when the trouble of GW started. Just about each time I shut down GW (Alt F4/Task Manager/ the cross in the top right corner) it went bonkers, computer immediatly shut down with a blue screen.

I've updated my drivers (released on June 22nd, 77.72) and it has only happened once since then. I thought I fixed it, yet it seems it still happens, although a lot less frequent.

What are reliable drivers for Guild Wars? The 71.89?

alucard_x · Jun 29, 2005, 03:23 PM // 15:23

i've been playing gw since the first week of may and i've only had one bluescreen so far and that was with the 77.72 drivers.. hopefully any other driver set shouldn't cause problems.

renoncour · Jun 29, 2005, 04:10 PM // 16:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariena Feladon

Very same problem here. I know it's a drivers issue, because I was using the reliable 71.xx for Guild Wars (I forgot which version it was).

But then.. then came the Battlefield 2 demo. And that demo had shadow issues.

That very same demo included more recent NVidia drivers which fixed BF2's shadow issues and that's when the trouble of GW started. Just about each time I shut down GW (Alt F4/Task Manager/ the cross in the top right corner) it went bonkers, computer immediatly shut down with a blue screen.

I've updated my drivers (released on June 22nd, 77.72) and it has only happened once since then. I thought I fixed it, yet it seems it still happens, although a lot less frequent.

What are reliable drivers for Guild Wars? The 71.89?

This was exactly my case as well! I couldn't stand the crazy block shadows in BF2, so I installed that beta driver, and GW started crashing all over the place.

I tried updating other drivers (nForce4 and video), and even reformatted my hard drive, thinking something was seriously messed up. The crashes still happened on a clean install, even with those WHQL 77.72's.

A few days ago I removed the 77.72's and put 71.89 back on. I can't play BF2 anymore, but at least Guild Wars doesn't crash.

Omega X · Jun 29, 2005, 05:03 PM // 17:03

I used to get crashes with the 77.72's also. But I grabbed the 77.18's from the guru 3D website and I don't crash anymore. According to Guru3D, they are betas leaked from NvIDIA the same day as the 77.72's. I don't know anything about Battlefield 2 but it works great for Guild Wars.

Liante · Jun 30, 2005, 07:31 AM // 07:31

Thanks guys. Went back to the 71.89 drivers and the game doesn't seem to crash anymore. =)

sandmanfvr · Jun 30, 2005, 01:44 PM // 13:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mariena Feladon

Very same problem here. I know it's a drivers issue, because I was using the reliable 71.xx for Guild Wars (I forgot which version it was).

But then.. then came the Battlefield 2 demo. And that demo had shadow issues.

That very same demo included more recent NVidia drivers which fixed BF2's shadow issues and that's when the trouble of GW started. Just about each time I shut down GW (Alt F4/Task Manager/ the cross in the top right corner) it went bonkers, computer immediatly shut down with a blue screen.

I've updated my drivers (released on June 22nd, 77.72) and it has only happened once since then. I thought I fixed it, yet it seems it still happens, although a lot less frequent.

What are reliable drivers for Guild Wars? The 71.89?

Same thing here. I updated due to the BF2 demo, no problems till I got Guild Wars. Since GW is my main game, I want it to run smooth. I will download the 71.89 drivers. I can't stand for my machine that is 100% of the time rock solid to do this.

xenoaroe · Jul 01, 2005, 04:06 AM // 04:06

My computer Starts everytime i exit out of guild wars. Any help? :-/

xenoaroe · Jul 01, 2005, 05:07 AM // 05:07

nvrmnd i fixed it

Omega X · Jul 01, 2005, 05:45 AM // 05:45

You mind telling us what you did for the sake knowing?